(Filmfare - April 1996)
(on winning the Filmfare Award for 'Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge')

What do you have to say about the controversy over the script of Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge... following Honey Irani's statements that she was denied credit?

I can answer that question only by saying that ever since I can remember the only thing I ever wanted out of life was to make films... the dream was to make films which were commercially successful and critically acclaimed. But the most important part of the dream was the sense of belonging, the feeling of being part of a group of wonderfully talented people.

Today after the success and appreciation of my film, I should feel that the dream has come true.  But I don't. Because there is a doubt about my honesty, integrity and capabilities. As I told you, I've always believed that one's work should speak for oneself. So, I think  I'll  have to start all over again from the beginning - try and work harder, try and write a better script, make a better film and hope that it will meet with this kind of success and appreciation again. Hopefully then, there won't be any doubts left. Hopefully then, I'll feel that I belong here. Believe me, that's my honest response to your question... and that's all I will ever say on the subject.

Okay... were Shah Rukh Khan and Kajol your first choices for the roles of Raj and Simran?

Initially, I was keen to do the film with newcomers. But I sensed that the key scenes called for a high level of performance. Being new myself, perhaps I couldn't have extracted the kind of performances I needed. Kajol was the natural choice - she's the best... her potential hadn't been sufficiently tapped... I feel it still hasn't been tapped enough.

As for Shah Rukh, he hadn't done a pucca love story before. His negative image even helped me.  To start with, the audience feels unsure about the boy - is he a haraami sort of fellow, a mischievous guy? The audience's trust in him was won slowly but surely as the story unfolded.

How did you handle your two lead players?

Their scenes and their characterisations were clearly defined. I just tried to create the right ambience for them... and let them be. I just held the reins in my hand, controlling them, pulling and pushing them according to the requirements of the scenes.

Often, both of them went beyond the script and the direction. I thought Kajol was brilliant in the scenes with Faridaji and Amrishji and also in that close-up when she meets Anupam. And Shah Rukh was outstanding in the climax... the bridge scene where he has to convey a sense of pain and anguish. Actually, I can't really be objective... I feel close to all the scenes.




A romance was suggested between Anupam Kher and Himani Shivpuri. But  why was that nipped in the bud?

It was just a cute flirtation. If I had carried it forward, it would have distracted the audience's attention again from the main plot.  It wouldn't have been correct to intrude in the romance between Raj and Simran. I did want Himaniji to be part of the group in the last shot, when the train is pulling out of the station. But her husband had passed away and she couldn't be there. If she was present at the schedule, I would have thought about this angle a bit more. It could have been a light touch at the end.

How influenced are you by: (a) Yash Chopra and (b) Sooraj Barjatya?

Dad's influence has been very sub-conscious. I've grown up on his films, I've worked under him.  But I don't overtly copy his style of film-making. I'd go to foreign locales only if they're part of the script. I'd capture the essence of another country instead of just the greens and the mountains.   Somewhere along the line though, his ideas on life, love, emotions and human relationships must have come down to me. Dad definitely likes to beautify frames and make things look glamorous.

The influence of Sooraj Barjatya is more conscious.  When I saw Maine Pyar Kiya, my instant reaction was... I wish I'd made this film. I'd never reacted as strongly before, I'd never connected with a film as deeply.  Whatever I believe in was being shown to me by someone else. I felt here's a film-maker who thinks like me, thinks better than me. He became a director to watch and learn from.

Again, I reacted very strongly to Hum Aapke Hain Koun.. !  it had a great screen-play... though the story was thin he kept you glued. The public reacted overwhelmingly to the fact that the lovers didn't revolt... they were willing to sacrifice their own feelings for their families. This is exactly what I wanted to say in my own way. Hum Aapke Hain Kaun..! gave me confidence and added to the strength of my convictions.  Dilwale Dulhania... is what it is because of Hum Aapke... Sooraj had pulled it off... and so I knew that I was on the right track.

Commercially, too, Hum Aapke... showed us the way to market a film and the volume of business that is possible.


After Hum Aapke... and Dilwale Dulhania... won't elaborate wedding and engagement scenes become a staple of the Hindi movies?

I did not imitate Hum Aapke... Whatever I've shown was dictated by the script. The shaadi backgrounds in both the films were integral to the storylines. It was to catch the feeling of festivity, of celebration. After Hum Aapke... and Dilwale Dulhania, it has been understood that you don't always need to have plenty of action and a frantic pace. If I believe in what I'm saying then so will the audience.

You have stressed the sanctity of the family unit. But is that feasible in this day and age when the joint family structure is splintering?

I think family oneness is the essence of being Indian. To preserve the family unit isn't something rigid, regressive or backward at all. In fact, the west should learn a lesson from our family system. If there has been a splintering of the structure, I would say that these are exceptions to the rule. By and large, a solid family background is the base of every individual in our society. Also, you don't have to live together to feel close to one another. I would say that emotional togetherness and the respect for one's elders in India make us special.

You've touched upon the issue of the Indian settled abroad. Was this deliberate?

No, it wasn't deliberate. I wanted to create the character of a rather rigid father - to enhance his rigidity, I felt that the character of Amrishji could be shown to be far away from his roots. In a sense, he is a displaced person and yet his outlook is very stubborn. Without  intending to, I touched upon the issue of the major generation gap that exists between Indian immigrants and theirchildren.



Have you used any moments from your own life in the film?

There's nothing from my life inDilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge.  But given the situations in the story, I would have reacted just the way Raj did. I put myself completely into the character.

Have you known a Simran?

(Laughs) No! Simran is like a collection of different girls. I've been very lucky to have close friends who are girls. Through them I've learnt how a girl reacts, behaves and thinks. Simran is also a little bit like what I'd want in a girl... how I think she should be. What am I saying? Forget this... please.

Don't get coy now. You tell the entire nation to "Come... fall in love." But have you ever fallen in love?

(Blushes cherry-red) Of course, I have... when I was in the third standard!  I fell in love with a classmate because I saw her crying. She wasn't very lovely or anything like that... but I wanted to rush out to her and be nice to her. I felt this is what love is all about. Today, I'm still waiting to define love... to understand it fully.

So when will you get married?

Not for a very long time. What is this? What are you asking me? See, I'll get married when I meet a girl I want to spend the rest of my life with.

Would you go through all that Raj did?

Absolutely... if I love the girl to the extent that Raj did.

You haven't fallen in love to that extent yet?

Not really.
So what does love mean to you today?

(After a long pause... a half-smile) Let me see if I can put it in words... Hmmm... love is the emotion when you feel for and respect a person so much that you put that person above everyone else. According to me, respect is the most crucial part of love.

What do you feel about the sexual permissiveness of the '90s?

(Blushing violently again) Sex is there... it's on everyone's mind. You just have to know when to exercise self-control and not take advantage of the other person.

That people talk about sex, that it has come out into the open is a good thing. Mercifully, we aren't as repressed as we used to be. But when the talk becomes vulgar and excessive, I don't approve of it.

After a mega-success, another director would have announced his next project quickly. Why are you resting on your laurels?

I'm still trying to recover from Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge. I have to get it totally out of my system. If it still lingers in my mind, I'll end up merely making it all over again. I want to start afresh... and that moment could come next week, next month or next year.

Finally... what do the three Fimfare Awards mean to you?

I feel good, great. But also a bit scared, I don't know if I'll be able to live up to the higher expectations from me now on. The maximum satisfaction comes, of course, with box office success. And after that if you win awards, then you can't possibly ask for more.

This interview appeared in the April 1996 issue of Filmfare.

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