What do you have to say about the controversy over the script of Dilwale
Dulhania Le Jayenge... following Honey Irani's statements that she was
denied credit?
 I can answer that question only
by saying that ever since I can remember the only thing I ever wanted out
of life was to make films... the dream was to make films which were
commercially successful and critically acclaimed. But the most
important part of the dream was the sense of belonging, the feeling
of being part of a group of wonderfully talented people.
 Today after the success
and appreciation of my film, I should feel that the dream has come
true. But I don't. Because there is a doubt about my
honesty, integrity and capabilities. As I told you, I've
always believed that one's work should speak for oneself. So,
I think I'll have to start all over again from the
beginning - try and work harder, try and write a better script,
make a better film and hope that it will meet with this kind of
success and appreciation again. Hopefully then, there won't be
any doubts left. Hopefully then, I'll feel that I belong here.
Believe me, that's my honest response to your question... and
that's all I will ever say on the subject.

Okay... were Shah Rukh Khan and Kajol your first choices for the roles
of Raj and Simran?

Initially, I was keen to do the film with newcomers. But I sensed that the key scenes called for a high
level of performance. Being new myself, perhaps I couldn't have
extracted the kind of performances I needed. Kajol was the natural
choice - she's the best... her potential hadn't been sufficiently
tapped... I feel it still hasn't been tapped enough.

As for Shah Rukh, he hadn't done a pucca love story before. His negative image even helped me.
To start with, the audience feels unsure about the boy - is he a
haraami sort of fellow, a mischievous guy? The audience's
trust in him was won slowly but surely as the story unfolded.

How did you handle your two lead players?

Their scenes and their characterisations were clearly defined.
I just tried to create the right ambience for them... and let
them be. I just held the reins in my hand, controlling
them, pulling and pushing them according to the requirements
of the scenes.
 Often, both of
them went beyond the script and the direction. I thought Kajol
was brilliant in the scenes with Faridaji and Amrishji and also in
that close-up when she meets Anupam. And Shah Rukh was
outstanding in the climax... the bridge scene where he has to
convey a sense of pain and anguish. Actually, I can't really
be objective... I feel close to all the scenes.

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A romance was suggested between Anupam Kher
and Himani Shivpuri. But why was that nipped in the bud?
 It was just a
cute flirtation. If I had carried it forward, it would have
distracted the audience's attention again from the main plot.
It wouldn't have been correct to intrude in the romance between Raj
and Simran. I did want Himaniji to be part of the group in the last
shot, when the train is pulling out of the station. But her husband
had passed away and she couldn't be there. If she was present at the
schedule, I would have thought about this angle a bit more. It
could have been a light touch at the end.

How influenced are you by: (a)
Yash Chopra and (b) Sooraj Barjatya?

Dad's influence has been very sub-conscious. I've grown up
on his films, I've worked under him. But I don't overtly
copy his style of film-making. I'd go to foreign locales only
if they're part of the script. I'd capture the essence of
another country instead of just the greens and the mountains.
Somewhere along the line though, his ideas on life,
love, emotions and human relationships must have come down
to me. Dad definitely likes to beautify frames and make things
look glamorous.

The influence of Sooraj Barjatya is more conscious.
When I saw Maine Pyar Kiya, my instant reaction
was... I wish I'd made this film. I'd never reacted as
strongly before, I'd never connected with a film as deeply.
Whatever I believe in was being shown to me by someone
else. I felt here's a film-maker who thinks like me, thinks
better than me. He became a director to watch and learn from.

Again, I reacted very strongly to Hum Aapke Hain Koun..
! it had a great screen-play... though the story was thin
he kept you glued. The public reacted overwhelmingly to the
fact that the lovers didn't revolt... they were willing to sacrifice
their own feelings for their families. This is exactly what I
wanted to say in my own way. Hum Aapke Hain Kaun..! gave
me confidence and added to the strength of my convictions.
Dilwale Dulhania... is what it is because of Hum Aapke...
Sooraj had pulled it off... and so I knew that I was on the right
track.

Commercially, too, Hum Aapke... showed us the way to
market a film and the volume of business that is possible.

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After Hum Aapke... and
Dilwale Dulhania... won't elaborate wedding and engagement
scenes become a staple of the Hindi movies?

I did not imitate Hum Aapke... Whatever I've shown was
dictated by the script. The shaadi backgrounds in
both the films were integral to the storylines. It was to
catch the feeling of festivity, of celebration. After
Hum Aapke... and Dilwale Dulhania, it has
been understood that you don't always need to have plenty of
action and a frantic pace. If I believe in what I'm saying then
so will the audience.
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You have stressed the sanctity of
the family unit. But is that feasible in this day and age
when the joint family structure is splintering?

I think family oneness is the essence of being Indian.
To preserve the family unit isn't something rigid,
regressive or backward at all. In fact, the west should
learn a lesson from our family system. If there has been
a splintering of the structure, I would say that these are
exceptions to the rule. By and large, a solid family background
is the base of every individual in our society. Also, you don't have
to live together to feel close to one another. I would say that
emotional togetherness and the respect for one's elders in India make
us special.

You've touched upon the issue of the
Indian settled abroad. Was this deliberate?

No, it wasn't deliberate. I wanted to create the character
of a rather rigid father - to enhance his rigidity, I felt that
the character of Amrishji could be shown to be far away from his
roots. In a sense, he is a displaced person and yet his outlook
is very stubborn. Without intending to, I touched upon the
issue of the major generation gap that exists between Indian immigrants
and theirchildren.

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Have you used any moments from your own life in the film?

There's nothing from my life inDilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge.
But given the situations in the story, I would have reacted
just the way Raj did. I put myself completely into the character.

Have you known a Simran?
 (Laughs) No!
Simran is like a collection of different girls. I've been very
lucky to have close friends who are girls. Through them I've
learnt how a girl reacts, behaves and thinks. Simran is also
a little bit like what I'd want in a girl... how I think she should
be. What am I saying? Forget this... please.

Don't get coy now. You tell the
entire nation to "Come... fall in love." But
have you ever fallen in love?

(Blushes cherry-red) Of course, I have... when
I was in the third standard! I fell in love with a
classmate because I saw her crying. She wasn't very
lovely or anything like that... but I wanted to rush out
to her and be nice to her. I felt this is what love is all
about. Today, I'm still waiting to define love... to
understand it fully.

So when will you get married?

Not for a very long time. What is this? What are you asking me?
See, I'll get married when I meet a girl I want to spend the rest
of my life with.

Would you go through all that Raj did?

Absolutely... if I love the girl to the extent that Raj did.

You haven't fallen in love to that extent
yet?
 Not really.
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So what does love mean to
you today?

(After a long pause... a half-smile) Let me see
if I can put it in words... Hmmm... love is the emotion
when you feel for and respect a person so much that you
put that person above everyone else. According to me, respect
is the most crucial part of love.

What do you feel about the sexual permissiveness
of the '90s?

(Blushing violently again) Sex is there...
it's on everyone's mind. You just have to know when
to exercise self-control and not take advantage of the
other person.

That people talk about sex, that it has come out into
the open is a good thing. Mercifully, we aren't as
repressed as we used to be. But when the talk becomes
vulgar and excessive, I don't approve of it.

After a mega-success, another
director would have announced his next project quickly.
Why are you resting on your laurels?

I'm still trying to recover from Dilwale Dulhania
Le Jayenge. I have to get it totally out of my system.
If it still lingers in my mind, I'll end up merely making it
all over again. I want to start afresh... and that moment
could come next week, next month or next year.
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Finally... what do the three Fimfare Awards
mean to you?

I feel good, great. But also a bit scared, I don't
know if I'll be able to live up to the higher expectations
from me now on. The maximum satisfaction comes, of course,
with box office success. And after that if you win awards,
then you can't possibly ask for more.

This interview appeared in the April 1996 issue of Filmfare.

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